Subject: ATM95-1540 PLENARY - Proposed Liaison: AIW and ATM Forum

From: "Marcia Peters (8-444-4380)" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:25:37 EST

Attached is a copy of Chuck Brotman's e-mail to the ATM Forum chair,
George Dobrowski.  There was some minor rewording to accomodate Bay's
comments and to more explicitly state what we want the ATM Forum to do:
Chuck is asking that a suitable ATM-F person be appointed to act as
liaison to the AIW.

Marcia
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  ATM Forum Technical Committee                  ATM_Forum/95-1540
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  PROJECT:      Technical Working Group

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  Source:
                Charles H. Brotman
                AIW Chair
                800 Park Offices Drive
                Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
                Phone:  919-254-7204
                FAX:    919-254-5483
                Email:  [email-masked]

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  Title:        Proposal For Liaison between the AIW and ATM Forum

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  Abstract:     This contribution proposes that a liaison be
                created between the APPN Implementers Workshop
                (AIW) and the ATM Forum on matters of mutual
                interest.

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  Date:         December 11-15, 1995

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  Distribution: Plenary

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  Notice:

             This contribution has been prepared to assist the ATM
             Forum. This proposal is made by the APPN Implementers
             Workshop as a basis of discussion. This contribution
             should not be construed as a binding proposal on
             the APPN Implementers Workshop. Specifically, the APPN
             Implementers Workshop reserves the right to amend or
             modify the statements contained herein.

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Proposal For Liaison between AIW and ATM Forum

To: Mr. George Dobrowski
    Chair
    ATM Forum Technical Committee

As Chair of the APPN Implementers Workshop, I am sending this
letter to open a dialog regarding cooperation between the AIW and
ATM Forum on areas of mutual interest.

The APPN Implementers Workshop (AIW) is a group of over 40
networking technology companies working jointly on the architecture
and implementation of Advanced Peer-to-Peer Networking (APPN) and
related technologies (please see attached membership list).  The
AIW facilitates fully interoperable, high quality APPN products
from a wide variety of vendors.

The AIW members are very interested in the ATM technology, and the
AIW is beginning the work required for APPN products to utilize
ATM.  In fact, the AIW has approved implementation agreements for
APPN use of ATM-Forum-specified LAN emulation and
ATM-to-frame-relay network interworking.  The AIW is also
developing a specification for APPN native attachment to ATM using
ATM-Forum-specified UNIs.  ATM Forum work groups, including MPOA,
LANE, SIG, TM, and NM are doing related work.  It is a goal of the
AIW to discover, create, and exploit potential synergies between
APPN and ATM, to bring the best value possible to those customers
who use both.

We at the AIW would like to work with the ATM Forum to facilitate
the development of consistent approaches in areas of mutual
interest, and would like to establish communication channels
between the two organizations.  Gary Dudley ([email-masked]),
editor of the AIW draft specification on APPN Native Access to ATM,
has agreed to represent the AIW in this effort.

We hereby request that you recommend a suitable individual from the
ATM Forum to act as the liaison to the AIW.  We look to you for
guidance in determining which ATM Forum working groups are most
appropriate.

On behalf of the AIW, I look forward to the favor of your reply.

Thank you.

Best Regards,
Chuck Brotman
AIW Chair

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 AIW MEMBERSHIP LIST - as of November 1995
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 Adv. Computer Comm.
 Apertus
 Applied Computer Tech.
 Ascom Timeplex
 Attachmate
 Axis Communications AB
 Bay Networks
 BBN Systems & Tech.
 Cabletron Systems
 CIMI Corp.
 Cisco Systems
 CrossComm Corp.
 Data Connection
 DataCom Systems, Inc.
 Digital Equipment Corp.
 Digital Technology
 Eicon Technology
 Ganymede Software
 Harris-Adacom
 Hewlett Packard
 Hypercom
 IBM
 InSession (Australia)
 Jupiter Technology Inc.
 McData Corporation
 Memorex-Telex Corp.
 Metaplex Inc.
 Netlink, Inc.
 NORTEL
 OpenConnect Systems
 Proteon Corp.
 RADLINX Ltd.
 Robin Callender
 Robin Layland
 Routerware
 Sync Research
 Systems & Comm. Sciences
 Tandem Computers
 Teubner & Asso, Inc.
 Wall Data, Inc.
 Wandel & Goltermann Tech
 3Com

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   The AIW maintains a World Wide Web and an FTP site which include
   mail exploders, news and minutes, a document repository, etc. The
   following text describes these facilities and how to access them.
   Specific documents of possible interest to members of the ATM
   forum include the AIW Procedures Manual, the AIW Technical Work
   Plan and the AIW document ATM-02 which is the draft proposal for
   APPN native attachment to ATM using ATM-Forum-specified UNIs,
   mentioned in the letter above. The ATM-02 document can be found at

ftp://networking.raleigh.ibm.com/pub/standards/aiw/appn/hpr/atm-02.psbin.

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                       AIW Information Exchange
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

IBM has created Internet mailing lists to allow APPN vendors, implementers,
consultants, and users to interact with and receive information from
APPN architects regarding APPN networking issues today.  Mailing lists
such as APPN consulting, APPN architectural modifications, testing and
conformance, major enhancements like High Performance Routing (HPR) and
Dependent LU Requester (DLUR), and many others are provided.  Anyone
with an Internet address and a desire to learn more about APPN can join.

                            AIW Web Server

Good news....we now have a Web server up and running that provides easy
access to loads of information regarding APPN and the AIW for both APPN
developers and customers.

Use your favorite Web browser to access:

   http://www.raleigh.ibm.com/app/aiwhome.htm

Here is a sampling of some of the information you'll have access to:

  * Information on the APPN Implementers Workshop (AIW) conference.
    You'll be able to track the progress of numerous industry-wide
    work groups that are currently working to further enhance APPN
    as the most feature-rich networking protocol in the industry.

  * APPC/APPN document repository: this repository contains hundreds
    of documents, all neatly ordered by category.  Configuration
    information, asuite (aftp, aname, etc.), education, papers written
    by experts in the field, user and programmer tips, and much more
    information can be accessed here.

  * CIW document repository: contains the latest specification for
    the CPI-C 2.0 industry standard.

  * Information on upcoming APPN-related conferences, such as the
    AIW, CIW, APPC/APPN Technical Conference, and SHARE. You'll even be
    able to register for these conferences through your Web browser.

  * Questions and issues our current customers are wrestling with
    regarding APPN, and answers provided by various APPN experts.
    Virtually every subject is covered here:  APPN over ATM,
    interconnecting multiple networks using border node, configuration
    issues, connection networks, performance measurements of HPR's
    Automatic Network Routing, and much more.

                     AIW Electronic Mailing Lists

The following mailing lists are supported by AIW electronic access.
To subscribe to any of these mailing lists send a note to the Internet
address [email-masked].  In the body of the note
write the following line:

      subscribe <aiw mailing list name> <your name>

Do not use a subject line in your subscription note.

For example, if Joe Nethead wishes to subscribe to the APPN HPR
mailing list, he sends a note to the listproc address described above,
with the following line included in the body of the note:

      subscribe aiw-appnhpr Joe Nethead

To unsubscribe from a mailing list, send a note to the same listproc
address with the following line in the body of the note:

      unsubscribe <aiw mailing list name>

Mailing Lists
-------------
1.  AIW General
[email-masked] - Used to relay general
information regarding AIW conferences, such as AIW registration
information and meeting minutes.  All subscribers to any AIW mailing
list are automatically subscribed to this mailing list also.

2.  APPN Reference
[email-masked] - Modifications and
enhancements to the SNA APPN Architecture Reference (SC30-3422), APPN
Dependent LU Requester (DLUR) Architecture Reference (SV40-1010), and
the SNA Formats (GA27-3136) manuals, as well as APPN architectural
questions and answers are posted to this mailing list.  Also, the
recently approved architecture for native transport of SNMP PDUs on
APPC sessions is discussed on this mailing list.

3.  APPN Public Data Networks support
[email-masked] - Modifying the port
description in APPN to improve the flexibility of the architecture when
using public or private WAN services.  This group also is working to
achieve a better, more dynamic method of accessing common WAN services
such as frame-relay, ATM, ISDN, and X.25.

4.  APPN Border Node
[email-masked] - Developing an Extended
Border Node APPN architecture to provide interconnection of multiple
APPN subnetworks with the same or different NETIDs, while isolating
network topology and enabling directory services and session
establishment across multiple subnet boundaries.

5.  APPN High Performance Routing (HPR)
[email-masked] - Used to discuss the newly
approved standard which provides non-disruptive rerouting within
APPN networks, and also increases routing performance by a factor
of 3 - 10 times.  This mailing list is also used to examine
requirements for additional applications of the APPN/HPR
technology, specifically APPN Migration to ATM, which discusses
techniques for transporting APPN traffic across ATM networks as
well as possible APPN extensions to better utilize ATM networks.

6.  APPN/HPR MIBs
[email-masked] - Used to discuss producing
MIBs for APPN and HPR.  The MIBs should allow for monitoring and control
of APPN and HPR using SNMP.

7.  APPN Migration to ATM -- Please see APPN High Performance Routing

8.  APPN Product Validation
[email-masked] - Used for establishing
connectivity, conformance, and interoperability among all vendors/products
who implement APPN.

9.  SNMP Related Interest Group
[email-masked] - Used to establish SNA SNMP MIBs
for the management of SNA resources.

10.  Data Link Switching (DLSw) Related Interest Group
[email-masked] - Used to discuss the recently
approved standard to add Data Link Switching functionality to networking
products.

                         DLSw Mail List Info

The DLSw RIG members agreed to create separate mail exploders under this
RIG.  This allows members to focus more effectively on areas which are
critical to their companies.

Listed below are the five current mail exploders.  Send subscription
requests for any of these mail lists to [email-masked]

 RIGLET NAME
 -----------
 aiw-dlsw-connect
 aiw-dlsw-interop   (previously known as aiw-dlsw-conformance)
 aiw-dlsw-loopprevention
 aiw-dlsw-mib
 aiw-dlsw-scalability

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                 How to Access Current AIW Information
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

IBM maintains a file server containing documents that are either
produced by or related to the numerous working groups that participate
in the AIW.  What is on this file server and how to access it is
explained below.

The file server internet address is 192.35.236.8 or you can use the
address networking.raleigh.ibm.com if you are near the proper name server.

Use anonymous FTP to login and copy AIW files from this file server.
To use anonymous FTP, FTP to the above address and login as anonymous
for the userid.  Use your internet address as the password.  The
Networking file server is on an AIX machine so the following AIX/UNIX
commands can be used while logged on under FTP:

?        acct      append    ascii    binary     cd      close
cms      debug     delete    delimit  dir        ebcdic  euckanji
get      help      ibmkanji  jis78kj  jis83kj    lcd     locsite
locstat  lpwd      ls        mdelete  mget       mode    mput
noop     open      pass      put      pwd        quit    quote
rename   sendport  sendsite  site     sjiskanji  status  struct
sunique  system    type      user

Useful Commands
---------------
+  ls - lists the files in the current directory.
+  ls -al - same as ls except also displays file sizes, the date last
   updated, and access authority/ownership information.
+  cd - allows you to change the directory you are currently working within.
+  pwd - tells you which directory you are currently within.
+  get - downloads a file onto your local system so you can view and/or
   print it out.
+  binary - all subsequent file upload/downloads are done in binary.
+  ascii - all subsequent file upload/downloads are done in ASCII.
+  user - type 'user anonymous' to login as user ID of anonymous.
+  put - allows you to copy files onto the Networking file server.  For
   anonymous ftp, files can only be written to the /incoming directory.
+  quit - logs you off of the Networking file server.

If you have any questions specifically related to the file server
send your question to [email-masked].

Networking File Server
----------------------
FTP to networking.raleigh.ibm.com or 192.35.236.8

Each mailing list supported by the AIW has its own directory on
Networking.  All mail logs for the mail lists are also located on
the file server under the directory maillogs.  The following diagram
shows the directory/file hierarchy for the AIW on Networking.
NOTE:  file names are in upper case, directory names are in lower case.

aiw
|
|---------->AIWINFO.TXT   (this document, in ASCII text)
|---------->AIWINFO.PSBIN (this document, in PostScript format)
|
|-->appn-+--------------+-->APPNQA1.TXT (4/93-7/93)
|        |              +-->APPNQA2.TXT (8/93-12/93)
|        |              +-->APPNQA3.TXT (1/94-8/94)
|        |              +-->APPNQA4.TXT (9/94-3/95)
|        |              +-->APPNSTNDRD.PSBIN
|        |
|        +->architecture+-->ARCHINDEX.TXT
|        |              +-->(Numerous files containing recent
|        |                   modifications to APPN)
|        |
|        +->atm        (empty directory - see HPR)
|        |
|        +->bordernode (empty directory)
|        |
|        +->cpmulticast(empty directory)
|        |
|        +->hpr-+---------->HPR4.PSBIN (HPR Specification Doc.)
|        |      +---------->HPR4.ZIPBIN
|        |      +---------->HPRALERT.PSBIN
|        |      +---------->HPRSPEC-V3.PSBIN
|        |      +---------->HPRSPEC-V3.ZIPBIN
|        |      +---------->HPRSIG4.PSBIN  (Minutes from AIW 4)
|        |
|        +->mibs+---------->APPN.MIB.0
|        |      +---------->HPR.MIB.0
|        |
|        +--->publicnet  (new working group)
|
|------------>dlsw-+-->CAPABILITIES.TAR.Z
|                  |
|                  +-->connect-+-->FSM-6611-01.TXT
|                  |           +-->FSM-DLSW-01.TXT
|                  |
|                  +-->FLOWCONTROL.TAR.Z
|                  |
|                  +-->mib+----------->DRAFT-AIW-DLSWNM-MIB-01.TXT
|                  |      +----------->DRAFT-AIW-DLSWNM-MIB-02.TXT
|                  |      +----------->DRAFT-AIW-DLSWNM-MIB-03.TXT
|                  |      +----------->DRAFT-AIW-DLSWNM-MIB-STRUC-01.TXT
|                  |      +----------->DRAFT-AIW-DLSWNM-MIB-STRUC-02.TXT
|                  |      +----------->DRAFT-IBM-DLSWNM-MIB-00.TXT
|                  |      +----------->DRAFT-IBM-DLSWNM-MIB-STRUC-00.TXT
|                  |      +----------->DRAFT-IBM-DLSWNM-RIGLET-00.TXT
|                  |      +----------->DRAFT-IETF-DLSWMIB-MIB-04.TXT
|                  |      +----------->DRAFT-IETF-DLSWMIB-MIB-05.TXT
|                  |      +----------->IBM-6611-DLSW-MIB.TXT
|                  |      +----------->IETF32-DLSW-TUTORIAL.PS
|                  |      +----------->IETF32-DLSWMIB-OVERVIEW-00.PS
|                  |      +----------->WELLFLEET-DLSW-MIB.TXT
|                  |
|                  +-->RFC1434.PSBIN
|                  +-->RFC1434.TXT
|                  +-->DLSW011.EXE      (also 013, 014, 015, 016
|                  +-->DLSW011.PSBIN     in exe, psbin, and txt
|                  +-->DLSW012.EXE      formats)
|                  +-->DLSW012.PSBIN
|                  +-->DLSW012.TXT
|                  +-->DLSW012HP.PSBIN
|                  +-->DLSW_V1.EXE
|                  +-->DLSW_V1.PSBIN
|                  +-->DLSW_V1.TXT
|                  +-->DLSWREVH.PSBIN
|                  +-->DLSWREVH.TXT
|
|------------>dlur-+-->(Versions 6 and 7 (current and back-level) of
|                  |    the APPN Dependent LU Requester (DLUR) spec.
|                  |    document are located here.  Multiple copies of
|                  |    each version exist in the following formats:
|                  |    PSBIN  - PostScript format (binary)
|                  |    ZIPBIN - Zipped PostScript format (binary)
|                  |    EXEBIN - Self-extracting zipped PostScript (bin.)
|                  |    BOOKBIN - BookManager format (binary)
|                  |    The most recent update of this document is
|                  |    DLUR7.xxxx>
|                  +-->DLUR.README
|                  +-->(Numerous files containing recent modifications
|                       to DLUR)
|
|-->snasnmp------>APPNMIB.TXT-02
|           +---->APPNMIB.TXT
|           +---->AIW4CHRT.TXT (AIW 4 Presentation)
|           +---->RFC1593.ANNOUNCE
|           +---->RFC1593.TXT
|           +---->RFCALERT.TXT
|           +---->DLURMIB.TXT
|           +---->APPC0617.TXT
|           +---->IETF29-APPCMIB-OV.PS
|           +---->NAUMIB.TXT
|           +---->RFCALERT.TXT
|           +---->OMNIPT.PSBIN
|           +---->SNMPSNA.TXT
|           +---->SNOS_FMT.PSBIN
|
|---------->validation+---->doc+--->AIWTSPEC.PSBIN
|                     |        +--->AIWTSPEC.ZIPBIN
|                     |        +--->AIWTSPEC.DOCBIN
|                     |        +--->ENTEST.PS
|                     |        +--->ENTEST.TXT
|                     |        +--->OPTSETS.WKS
|                     |        +--->OPTSETS.ZIP
|                     |
|                     +---->tools-->ALLOC.EXE
|                                +->ATELNET.EXE
|                                +->ATELNETD.EXE
|                                +->DEFLOTS.EXE
|
|-->consultant-->(APPN marketing related documents)
|
|-->conference+->AIW7AGENDA.PS
|             +->AIW7BAN.PS
|
|-->general-->MEMBER-AGREEMENT.PS
|          +->AIWPROC7.TXT
|          +->AIWPROC7.PS
|          +->AIWTECP7.TXT
|          +->AIWTECP7.PS
|          +->AIW3ATT.TXT
|          +->PROCEDURES.PS
|          +->GENERAL.MEMBER-LIST
|
|-->maillogs-><A MAIL LOG FILE FOR EACH MAILING LIST LOCATED HERE>
|
|-->memberinfo----><SUBSCRIBER INFO FOR ALL AIW MAILING LISTS>

AIW Files on Networking
-----------------------
Many of these files can now be accessed using the AIW Web server.  See
the description of the server in the front of this document to access
the server.  For FTP access, use the get command to download these files
onto your local system.  Also remember to download all files having
'bin' in the suffix of their file name in binary format.  You do this
by entering the command 'binary' without the quotes before downloading.
Those files which do not end in 'bin' are to be downloaded in ASCII
which is the default.

1. APPN Architecture Modifications - files located in directory
aiw/appn/architecture contain recent modifications and enhancements to
the SNA APPN Architecture Reference (SC30-3422) and SNA Formats manuals
(functional improvements and clarifications, performance enhancements,
etc.).  These files are represented in 'change pages' format and are in
either PostScript or ASCII format.

2. HPR Spec - the architectural specification document for the new
High Performance Routing enhancement, in both Postscript (ps) and
zipped ps versions (/aiw/appn/hpr/hpr4.psbin).

3. DLUR Files - various version (back-level and current-level) of the
APPN Dependent LU Requester (DLUR) specification.  Each version
has multiple copies for different document formats (/aiw/dlur):

    + PSBIN - PostScript format (binary)
    + ZIPBIN - Zipped PostScript format (binary)
    + EXEBIN - Self-extracting Zipped PostScript (binary)
    + BOOKBIN - Bookmanager (binary)

Recent modifications/enhancements to the DLUR architecture are also
available.

4. MIB Documents - MIB documents for APPN, APPC, and DLUR are located
in aiw/appn/mibs and aiw/snasnmp.

5. Validation/Doc Files - the Postscript and zipped (compressed)
versions of the first draft for the validation specifications document
(/aiw/validation/doc/aiwtspec.psbin) and the EN test case document
(/aiw/validation/doc/entest.ps).

6. Appnqa files - located in the appn directory, contains questions
posted by various vendors and users of APPN, and the answers to those
questions posted by APPN architects expert in the related field.
Subjects of all discussion contained in the file are placed at the
front of each file to allow for easier browsing.

7. DLSw Documents - the DLSw V1.0 standard, MIB documents, and
documentation on the DLSw flow control and connect FSMs are located in
the dlsw directory or subdirectories within dlsw.

8. AIW Membership and Procedures Files - located in the general
directory, member-agreement.ps, aiwproc7.ps, and aiwtecp7.ps contain the
Postscript versions of the AIW membership agreement, procedures, and
technical plan respectively.

9. Mail Logs - the maillogs directory contains a mail log file
for each AIW mailing list.  This file contains all of the notes sent to
the mailing list, allowing late subscribers to catch up
on the activity surrounding this mailing list.

10. Membership Files - AIW membership information for each subscriber
to each AIW mailing list.  Information items included are name, company
name and business phone number, and Internet address of each member
(/aiw/memberinfo).

Miscellaneous
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People having CompuServe accounts only can also subscribe to an APPN
mailing list.  Just provide as user ID your CompuServe number followed
by [email-masked]', and all notes sent to the mailing list you
subscribe to will be sent to your CompuServe account.

CompuServe users can send notes to these mailing lists or any other
Internet address by using your normal mailing facility with slight
modifications.  Under the Address field type:

  >Internet:Internet address you wish to send mail to

NOTE:  CompuServe may charge you extra for sending and receiving notes
to and from Internet.

If you have questions regarding any APPN architectural issue (COS,
Directory Services, broadcasting, etc.) send a note to [email-masked].
We will route your question to the in-house architect who is directly
responsible for the function dealing with your question, and then route
his/her answer back to your Internet or CompuServe ID.

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Last updated:  July 7, 1995
[email-masked]

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